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Post by woooooooo on Apr 23, 2013 14:42:24 GMT
This isnt an anti-left or anti-right rant. It isnt about Fox news or the allegations of left slanted media.
Its about journalism at its core. In Sandy Hook, Aurora and now Boston, the reports that were flying out were so contradictory at times it boggled the mind.
With the Boston manhunt, it was really apparent. In the rush to be the first with the news, reporters are just saying whatever the F#&*$ they want, and then dont bother to own they got it wrong in the first place.
I think its intentional. Kind of a shotgun approach to reporting. "If I say enough different shit, some of it is going to be true." I also think that it allows them wiggle room when they are caught on stuff.
In general it makes the media untrustworthy.
I wont even get started on the likes of OReally, and the fucktard from salon.com. Reckless statements like that only serve to further the divide of the people, regardless of their political affiliation.
Cheryl (before she stomped out of here again) once told me to watch the BBC news to see what really was going on in 'Murica. I may take her up on that.
I think its a travesty, and the real journalists like Cronkite et al... are rolling around in their grave wishing they could stomp a mudhole in Geraldo/Williams/Hume/Limibaugh/Brokaw's ass.
It used to be an honorable profession. Now its a joke. And the sheeple just watch with wide eyes, soaking it all up for hour after hour after hour after hour after hour after hour.
/ques up "Test for Echo" by Rush (the band)
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Post by Pharcellus on Apr 23, 2013 17:45:09 GMT
I heartily agree. I don't watch the lamestream media anymore. I pretty much only watch The Young Turks, Maddow, and Stewart. Maddow actually does a pretty good job of journalism overall, even though at times, her research and/or presentation is a bit poor. Even then, most times she issues on-air retractions when called out on it, which I don't see hardly anyone else doing. TYT is awesome. They kowtow to no one, and they get it right more times than anyone else.
It is a symptom of a more fundamental problem in our capitalistic society -- the importance of money first and everything else a distant second. Quality product? Fuck that! Just sell more crap and we'll make an extra penny on each! ..and we as consumers enable it because we lap it up. We are treading water in a sea of crap, so we assume that is all that is available. The investors and CEOs and middle managers have won the day. The people who actually produce stuff are crammed into a black box with a crank stuck into their backs.
I won't enable it any more. I refuse to shop at Wal*mart, Amazon, etc. I go to my local stores and support them -- at least the ones that haven't gone out of business yet. I will buy stuff from businesses who care about the people producing their goods and thus, their wealth, and reward them with my patronage.
As part of that, I don't bother giving the lamestream media any of my time or attention.
It's hard to wean oneself off the teat of the vile machine of perverse capitalism, but it can be done. It MUST be done, or as a society, we're done.
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Kulamata
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Post by Kulamata on Apr 24, 2013 9:09:01 GMT
Ehhh, I don't think it's that bad. I don't expect perfection, but some of the Main Stream Press is reliable. The New York Times, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, Scientific American, others. I don't watch TV news at all except the local 11 pm for the weather, and that with a heavy hand on the DVR's fast forward. Op Eds? Very few, Paul Krugman, EJ Dionne, Nate Silver, some of the more specialized economics commentors (who have made sense consistently the last few years,) and not many others. The BBC is good. CNN, MSNBC bother me more for superficiality and obviousness than anything else. Fox, the Wall Street Journal, New York Daily Post (?) range from less than worthless to erratic at best.
IIRC, Communications Majors come predominantly from the lowest quartile of the college entry tests. (Sadly, teachers too.) Our culture's incentives are counter-productive.
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Post by kirinir on Apr 24, 2013 9:55:07 GMT
The one that gets me is the irrelevant shit that gets included in articles, the most recent one was:
Chinese immigrant killed in the Boston was studying at uni and a Christian convert..... WTF does her having converted to Christianity have to do with sweet fuck all? It just comes across are more Us v Them (Religion) and see we don't hate all foreigners.
I've seen it in other articles recently and it's almost like they are adding in some completely minor shit just to add a distraction or slant and it's really starting to annoy me.
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Post by xaeris on Apr 25, 2013 0:57:34 GMT
I've stopped watching TV news a long time ago because they are ALL biased, one way or the other.
Even the damn newspapers are the same way.
The Headlines on the local paper last week?
"Victims' Families Lose to Gun Owners"
When I saw that, I was "What the Fuck!?"
It isn't hard to see which side THAT newspaper is on. Okay, I didn't know the VICTIMS (well, their families anyways) were sitting in congress voting on these bills. I didn't know the Gun Owners were sitting in congress voting on these bills. No, our LAWMAKERS are doing that.
Say what you will about those gun laws, but geez we don't need the retarded biased slants. They could have said something like "Congress: No to Gun Laws" or something neutral like that.
EDIT: BTW, I'd still be saying this even if it read "Gun Owners Win over Victims' Families"
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Post by FrithRae on Apr 25, 2013 20:05:35 GMT
Not watched news media in...over a decade really. I watch Jon Stewart for op-ed, along with Stephen Colbert.
Because you can't trust the news is the news; so why bother witht he ones that pretend...I prefer the ones that are obvious about it and still manage to make better, clearer, points, than the "biased" voices or the "news"...
But I don't put O'reily or Limbaugh or Geraldo or any of those on a "journalist" level - they aren't journalists, they're op-ed opinions at most. *shrugs*
When the Boston Bombing hit, I got home, turned on CNN for 15 minutes - deduced they knew nothing at all still and promptlly turned it off. Speculation is not news, it is just that, speculation. Once they had repeated themselves 32 times in that 15 minutes that they knew nothing....*click* to reruns of Big Bang Theory and Dinner.
I couldn't beleive NBC aired an hour long show about it when they still..knew nothing at all. I was like "WTF? Gonna show the same 3 minute video for an hour and talk about how they don't know anything?"
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