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Post by FrithRae on Jun 25, 2013 18:12:08 GMT
Too bad the rest of reality won't catch on to that Phar..
(the fact that its over, and that nothing bad was actually going on...)
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Post by D0Zer on Jun 25, 2013 20:16:19 GMT
Issa said the review "fails to meaningfully answer the largest outstanding questions about inappropriate inquiries and indefensible delays. As investigations by Congress and the Justice Department are still ongoing, Mr. Werfel's assertion that he has found no evidence that anyone at IRS intentionally did anything wrong can only be called premature." tinyurl.com/ms3282vLike I said this is far from over. I also ask you, how can the IRS investigate the IRS. That should throw up red flags even for you guys. That is like asking Holder to investigate Holder.....oh wait he is.
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Post by Kulamata on Jun 25, 2013 21:41:06 GMT
www.boston.com/business/personal-finance/taxes/2013/06/24/new-irs-chief-inappropriate-screening-was-broader/EouWCeb1D4IhdADJyJr5yO/story.htmlIt was always a scandal constructed of wet cardboard and cemented with venom. The IRS' function is to investigate submissions for tax-exempt status. The program's purpose is to pre-certify qualifications; only one program was denied, and that was a progressive one. The check is a convenience for the organizations; they can file without being pre-certified. The organizations are NOT being audited; they simply are told that they qualify as tax exempt or not. What disqualifies them? Direct political advertising for a candidate or issue. Indirect general political advertising is the purpose for which they are tax exempted. It is the IRS' duty, responsibility, and obligation to evaluate the proposed function in order that taxpayers' money not be wasted by tax-dodging, non-compliant organizations. Organizations with obviously political names seem like a good place to focus... One might think that the more conservative groups tend towards a certain obviousness, or simplicity, in choosing names for advocacy orgs. There seems to be a lot of desperation here; the White House has been squeaky-clean, and attackers are reaching. No travel agent or Christmas card "scandals"... Still, with 13 Whitewater investigations, none of which turned up any problems whatsoever with Whitewater, we may have a precedent. Edit: oops, forgot to turn the page, didn't see link already posted. That D didn't seem to realize that it hurts his case is ummm, on reflection, not terribly surprising.
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Post by D0Zer on Jun 26, 2013 0:10:15 GMT
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Post by Kulamata on Jun 26, 2013 4:35:45 GMT
www.salon.com/2013/06/25/darrell_issas_credibility_is_over/Normal people don't rush to file a lawsuit when they've been done no harm. The rejection amounts to saying that if you do what you say you're going to do, you won't qualify as tax-exempt when you file. So the group can decide to stay the course, and pay taxes as a direct advocacy group, or they can change their campaign strategy a bit. Being told what the law's limits are is not grounds for a lawsuit.
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Post by Pharcellus on Jun 26, 2013 5:33:12 GMT
That should be your first clue that this is nothing but partisan political BULL SHIT. Issa is a jackass who is grandstanding for his party. He isn't interested in the truth. Why should he be? The truth doesn't allow him to look like he's doing his job. It's done. Let it go. There are much more serious (and REAL) problems that we as a country need to be spending our energy on. This one needs to go into the same trashbin as birtherism and all the other retarded conspiracy theories. No, it is nowhere near the same. The IRS office of the Inspector General is a completely different department, and has no ties to the Cinicinatti office where this occurred. Besides, read the god damn report for yourself. The facts are there. If you really want to continue to cling to this smelly piece of shit, dig into it and show us the evidence of a massive scandal and what links the White House into it. Go on, don't just regurgitate what some other retard in your echo chamber says -- get to the facts. Otherwise, you're going to have a very hard time here from this point forward.
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Post by D0Zer on Jun 26, 2013 11:23:54 GMT
Wow Salon, REALLY? I knew you guys were strange but complete far left wacko's was not something I seen coming. Salon is so far left you might as well be quoting media matters (the working commie page for obuma).
"In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
-- by Martin Niemöller, prominent German anti-Nazi theologian and Lutheran pastor
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Post by Pharcellus on Jun 26, 2013 18:01:46 GMT
Wow Salon, REALLY? I knew you guys were strange but complete far left wacko's was not something I seen coming. Salon is so far left you might as well be quoting media matters (the working commie page for obuma). Dude, you wouldn't know a far-left wacko, even if one bit you on your ass. If you're just going to wave off any argument because of where it is published, regardless of the content of the argument, then you're just being an ignorant jackass. What the FUCK has that got to do with anything being discussed here? Are you about to link this non-scandal to Nazism, Glenn Beck?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 18:13:28 GMT
All arguments eventually lead back to the Nazis...
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Post by D0Zer on Jun 26, 2013 18:30:30 GMT
Wow Salon, REALLY? I knew you guys were strange but complete far left wacko's was not something I seen coming. Salon is so far left you might as well be quoting media matters (the working commie page for obuma). Dude, you wouldn't know a far-left wacko, even if one bit you on your ass. If you're just going to wave off any argument because of where it is published, regardless of the content of the argument, then you're just being an ignorant jackass. What the FUCK has that got to do with anything being discussed here? Are you about to link this non-scandal to Nazism, Glenn Beck? Only jackass here is people like you who think the IRS scandal is over. If it is over how come another official took the 5th? Oh wait you didn't know about that did you. Keep getting the news from the far left loon sites like Salon, Huffington, and MSNBC and you will stay lost forever. After all these years it finally makes sense what kind of loons you guys really are and I can sit back and laugh at the ignorance. Makes sense why this country is going down the drain. Keep believing in that jackass in the WH and how him and his administration don't have their hands all over these scandals.
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Post by D0Zer on Jun 26, 2013 18:32:24 GMT
All arguments eventually lead back to the Nazis... If you can't see the similarity's of the two then you are lost. When all you're rights are gone don't cry to hard you lame ass obuma ass licker.
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Post by Kulamata on Jun 26, 2013 20:20:54 GMT
Long ago, in the '50's, I read something that has stayed with me ever since.
The writer's thesis was that conservatives weren't necessarily crazy (a common conjecture of the time, what with the cons owning the Great Depression, goldbuggery, and McCarthyism), but that certain personality types became Republicans because that party allowed, encouraged, indeed, even rewarded, vitriolic expression. Such expression was normally frowned upon in polite society, so those whose personalities were such that they required such an outlet found a congenial home in the Republican Party.
I've never found a reason to reject that thesis.
The inability to start with data, (or even to understand what hard facts are), assemble the data linearly, and draw a resulting conclusion is harmful to one's arguments. In fact, it makes clear that there is no convincing argument to be had in that quarter of the compass, so invective is substituted as a weak standin instead.
If namecalling is all ya got, when it's obvious that it won't change any minds, then it's pretty clear that you aren't trying to argue, persuade, or educate, but are just simply venting a little venom to be wafted away on the uncaring winds.
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Post by Pharcellus on Jun 26, 2013 20:32:59 GMT
Only jackass here is people like you who think the IRS scandal is over. If it is over how come another official took the 5th? Oh wait you didn't know about that did you. Keep getting the news from the far left loon sites like Salon, Huffington, and MSNBC and you will stay lost forever. Yes, shit-for-brains, I was well aware that Lois Lerner plead the 5th. However, if you know what the 5th amendment is meant for, it is TOTALLY acceptable to be used the way she used it. I would have used it in Issa's retarded kangaroo court hearing, too. Pleading the 5th in no way can be considered evidence of ANY kind of wrongdoing. That's the whole reason the fucking 5th amendment exists in the first place, you dumb fuck. You're the only one here proving how much of an idiot you are. You don't/won't read any of the evidence, testimony, or facts on the matter, quote Glenn-Beck-esque conspiracy theories, provide NO evidence to back ANY of them up, and then tell *US* we don't have a clue. Here's one for you: I don't have ANY love for Obama. Yes, I voted for him, because I chose what I believed at the time is the lesser evil. However, make no mistake, I know he doesn't have my or most Americans' best interests at heart when it comes to many different issues, but neither did Rombot, and Rombot was (and still is) a malevolent piece of shit on top of it all. If I had ANY OTHER CHOICE, Obama wouldn't have gotten my vote. So, if you want to bash Obama, feel free; I will be happy to provide you the biggest club for the job I can find; there are certainly more than enough reasons for it to go around. However, this retarded conspiracy theory garbage isn't one of them. If you insist on being a crackpot, then expect to be regarded as one and be relegated to the slagpile with the rest of the refuse. I am beyond sick and tired of listening to ignoramuses who don't have a clue, won't get a clue, and revel in their abject stupidity.
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Post by Kulamata on Jun 26, 2013 20:38:40 GMT
If you can't see the similarity's similarities , of the two then you are lost. When all you're your rights are gone(,) don't cry to too hard you lame ass obuma President Obama ass licker. Normally, you'd be someone to pity, but your meanness is, I guess, your way of warding that off. It must be very hard being you...
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Post by Kulamata on Jun 26, 2013 21:04:41 GMT
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